Posts by Green Jade

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

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friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

TheLoveDoctor thank you for the information. I think I am not ready to have a avator follow me where ever I go. It seems a little creepy

Lduh thank you for the link

Debator Thank you for your insight. I do realize that there are alot of ex-Witnesses and inactive Witnesses and active Witnesses. Since I do not have a any Witnesses to confide in and speak with, this site provides some needed feedback. Some comment mirror some of feeling and others do not. It is up to me to wade through all these responses. I appreciate your comments, and I hope you do provide me insightful comments in regards to my feeling that I am posting.

the-illuminator81 Thank you for your greeting. But instead of hypnotic eyes you enjoy a horn and pink tenticles?

Black Sheep/Chris Yes I do believe that is what I am finding. There are many different views and feeling. I respect everyones right to feel or believe what they want.

Isaacustin Its ok. If people want to post as different individuals to reflect their many different personalities? or just feel like it, I think it's up to them. It sounds exhausting and confusing. Thank you for your many postings.

Now I have completed the greetings. Yesterday, I didn't really think about my dilemma, and I did not post. I am organizing my book shelf, and I realize how many boxes of literature I have. I'm not sure what to do them, but I joked before about ebay. I don't want to do anything disrespectful to them, but I am boxing them. I did throw away my notes from all the conventions. The person that wrote them does not exist, and I want to start fresh. I want to make all decisions with whatI feel now. I posted on "...bubble burst" about my mother's thoughts of this website. Has anyone else had relatives and friends that do not want them to post?

And To the Witnesses on this website, what should I do with the boxes of literature I have?

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

jw
friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

Smiddy Thank you Smiddy for your words

Cyberjesus funny - "may the swartz be with you"

Bangalore Thank you for your greeting

MMXIV Hello again. Didn't I just post a comment to you on "...my bubble burst"? I didn't address the other issue you brought up. It is sad that peopole misunderstand ME or CD-Bipolar or many mental or auto immune diseases. With that said, many people in this world do not understand. Some feel that someone with RA or ME or D should just get out of bed and shake it off. Some people believe it is fake and just in their heads. Witnesses are not the only ones not to understand. I think most people in this world do not. They misunderstand how and why this conditions occur. Some people are predisposed, genetics, triggers (tramatic events), and quite simply bad luck (my thoughts).

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Growing-up Witness was Wonderful ...Until My Bubble Broke

by Green Jade in

i was raised by a wonderful and close family.

i loved my congregation growing up.

when i would go to the meetings, i felt i could go to school the next day and deal with the pressures of that day.

Green Jade

To all the authors...thank you.

MMXIV: Thank you again for your insightful comments. Your right my decision is not about me but for my children. I wish my children can enjoy the special connect with other Witnesses. I wish my children will find others with strength and honesty to listen to council and avoid worldly pit falls (my husband dislike the term "wordly"). The kids I grew up with did not have issues with drinking, dating, smoking, drugs, not to say that there were not kids that had that issue. But I personally did not have any in the Congregation I grew up in - that I know of.

Perhaps as I get to know this site and the people in, I will be able to talk about more private issue.

I spoke with my mother and asked her about this website. She was not thrilled about my posting. She thought I should talk with the elders about my questions. While my mother understands about why I don't attend meetings, I think she feels that it is a private issue. I think other Witnesses posting on this site would agree that Witnesses keep Witness issue private and out of the public eye. For me I think this is unreasonable. I don't attend any regular meetings. I don't have a Congregation that I attend, and I don't have any Elders that I can confide in.

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Growing-up Witness was Wonderful ...Until My Bubble Broke

by Green Jade in

i was raised by a wonderful and close family.

i loved my congregation growing up.

when i would go to the meetings, i felt i could go to school the next day and deal with the pressures of that day.

Green Jade

I posted this on my previous thread today (Confused) I did not realized anyone posted anything on this thread. I think my computer did not refresh. Unfortunately, I am sleepy so I will have to read everyones comments tomorrow. Here was my comment to MMXIV. Thank you again for allowing me to stay and work through issue for a solution. And its nice to have intellectually stimulating conversations. LOL

MMXIV,

Some of what you say do have merit.

First I am definately not a celebrity.

Second, it is not unusual for social groups including religions, College Alumni, Neighborhoods, Professions, and Society Men and Women that stay within their social groups. Infact some social groups target children and start as young as 2yrs old (jack and Jill). Most find it comfortable, stable, connected, support systems. Infact this group has its own social group. I believe many people attack religion or other different religions because of past wounds or ideology. And thank goodness that we live in a time and place that allows a certain amount of freedoms including thoughts and beliefs (of course I'm not sure about privacy). Of course, there are some social groups that are derisive and promote illegal things. These groups control the standard and expel any unwanted influences that go against their agenda. The desire to group with like minded people is in all of us, but it is up to us to define what kind of like minded people we want to be connected to.

My exposure to other groups is limited due to how I was raised, but I have a good worldly friend who is Mormon. We laugh at how we grew up, and both were weirdly similar. Both of us have married unbelieving mates. I think I got the better deal. My husband fell in love with me (he sees ME) and I fell head over heel in love with him ...even before he met me. He believes in God, and he willing to go to the meetings but not actively participate. He sees it as like going to the movies. He loves my family, and they love him. My parents warned my future husband that I was spoiled and it might be a hard road ahead. But I also support him and his needs. I attend lunch or dinner with his family's Bday, Fathers Day, Mothers Day, Christmas and Thanks giving. I don't have any presents, but I am there enjoying the conversations. And he likes having his family with him.

Every where I see good and bad people in the Truth and out of the Truth. All those bad things I experienced at the Kindom Hall, I have experienced it in the world. Hatred, Bigotry, Malice, Gossip, Liars, thieves, covertness.

Even after saying all this. I can not say what I will do. I have not made up my mind. I tried to have my husband assist but he smiled...kissed me and said I need to decide since it is my personal choice. I love him. i am trying to read all the advise I have been given but it may take me awhile. I want to try to make one decision or choice each day and hopefully my path will follow. I'm starting to get sleepy and I hope this makes sense. I think this post I just did belongs under family.

Whether you agree with what I have said or shaking your head (as you can't believe it), I want to thank everyone for your input. All your experiences is making it easier to make one choice at a time. I guess I really am in the right place. This is the only thing I am really working through and I appeciate any support given. When I first started to post, I was fragile and afraid but after posting a couple of days. I don't feel scared anymore. No one is cursing at me and wishing me to the deepest reaches of space. So Far So Good. Thank you. And that includes you Apostate and others.

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

jw
friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

MMXIV,

Some of what you say do have merit.

First I am definately not a celebrity. I have been in the Truth all my life. I use to know everyone and anyone in my Circuit, which means alot of people know me. And some people who are gossips want to know what I have been up to (and not in the caring way).

Second, it is not unusual for social groups including religions, College Alumni, Neighborhoods, Professions, and Society Men and Women that stay within their social groups. Infact some social groups target children and start as young as 2yrs old (jack and Jill). Most find it comfortable, stable, connected, support systems. Infact this group has its own social group. I believe many people attack religion or other different religions because of past wounds or ideology. And thank goodness that we live in a time and place that allows a certain amount of freedoms including thoughts and beliefs (of course I'm not sure about privacy). Of course, there are some social groups that are derisive and promote illegal things. These groups control the standard and expel any unwanted influences that go against their agenda. The desire to group with like minded people is in all of us, but it is up to us to define what kind of like minded people we want to be connected to.

My exposure to other groups is limited due to how I was raised, but I have a good worldly friend who is Mormon. We laugh at how we grew up, and both were weirdly similar. Both of us have married unbelieving mates. I think I got the better deal. My husband fell in love with me (he sees ME) and I fell head over heel in love with him ...even before he met me. He believes in God, and he willing to go to the meetings but not actively participate. He sees it as like going to the movies. He loves my family, and they love him. My parents warned my future husband that I was spoiled and it might be a hard road ahead. But I also support him and his needs. I attend lunch or dinner with his family's Bday, Fathers Day, Mothers Day, Christmas and Thanks giving. I don't have any presents, but I am there enjoying the conversations. And he likes having his family with him.

Every where I see good and bad people in the Truth and out of the Truth. All those bad things I experienced at the Kindom Hall, I have experienced it in the world. Hatred, Bigotry, Malice, Gossip, Liars, thieves, covertness.

Even after saying all this. I can not say what I will do. I have not made up my mind. I tried to have my husband assist but he smiled...kissed me and said I need to decide since it is my personal choice. I love him. i am trying to read all the advise I have been given but it may take me awhile. I want to try to make one decision or choice each day and hopefully my path will follow. I'm starting to get sleepy and I hope this makes sense. I think this post I just did belongs under family.

Whether you agree with what I have said or shaking your head (as you can't believe it), I want to thank everyone for your input. All your experiences is making it easier to make one choice at a time. I guess I really am in the right place. This is the only thing I am really working through and I appeciate any support given. When I first started to post, I was fragile and afraid but after posting a couple of days. I don't feel scared anymore. No one is cursing at me and wishing me to the deepest reaches of space. So Far So Good. Thank you. And that includes you Apostate and others.

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I'm back with a new computer and feeling better

by Lady Lee in

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friends

the last 15 days have been hard.. 10 days without a computer is hell.. i said this on another thread but want to say it again.. thank you so much to those of you who have contributed to getting me a computer and back on line.

this new baby of mine is awesome.

it would have taken me months to save up enough money to either fix the old (which i think would have needed to be rebuilt) or buy another.

Green Jade

Lady Lee,

You welcomed me, and you just got recovered and now I feel sincerely special. Your before and after pictures are mind blowing. You look great. Have a great day. Bye

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

jw
friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

Yup, i just posted it bit about how I grew up under Family - Parenting. It should be interesting read. Most of the postings I saw was very negative. Mine is just human. As most Witnesses are just human. Also, I have tones of Literature and i will be selling it on Ebay LOL

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Growing-up Witness was Wonderful ...Until My Bubble Broke

by Green Jade in

i was raised by a wonderful and close family.

i loved my congregation growing up.

when i would go to the meetings, i felt i could go to school the next day and deal with the pressures of that day.

Green Jade

I was raised by a wonderful and close family. I loved my congregation growing up. When I would go to the meetings, I felt I could go to school the next day and deal with the pressures of that day. I never smoked, drank, did anything behind my parents back. I did not have the "fear" of anything except displeasing Jehovah. While I say all that, I don't mean that all my memories were good.

Some of my earliest memories were being at the Kingdom Hall. The first congregation I was in was not very friendly and malicious. It was an older congregation that still had some wordly tendencies. There were several "good christian racism". This disease can be found in many Christian and non christian congregations and religions today. Many times the afflicted are not aware. This congregation was probably not a good starting point for anyone but as a family we endured it. Infact, it brought us closer together. As a family we were close and my siblings and I were friends. We did not have any respect for Elders or MS or Pioneers, but all we saw was alot of small minds that reminded us of politicians.

We later changed congregations and wow what a change. This congregation was very uplifting and encouraging. The brothers took the time to get to know us and encourage us. We were invited to alot of social gathers. We found many friends within the congregation. All of us participated in the meetings and took an active role in the congregation and field service. I can not think of anyone having a better childhood. I did not date until I was in my twenties. I was serious minded and focused. We were encouraged to go to public school, and we did. For me, school was like work for adults, and I could not wait until I got out to "get to my real life".

In my twenties, I moved to a new congregation. This was probably the worse move of my life. I saw people who did not care for one another. I saw hatred, malice, covetness, and racism. I had been in the bubble and now the bubble burst. I entered into a depression but no one came. Not one friend, or elder or MS came to visit me. I didn't tell my family. I didn't want them to worry or get discouraged and pretended all was well. The following convention, I saw many of my old friends but instead of encouragement. I was looked as a "downer and not fun anymore" and officially dumped. They smiled at my face but never returned any of my calls. no one wants to be around a party pooper. One day drifted into another. I went to the meeting irregularly and stopped going to Jehovah in prayer but once I stopped I was unable to start again. I dated a a brother, but he didn't know me.

When I was cursed at in a meeting by another sister, my family realized what influences I had been exposed at. My family never once berated me for not attending a meeting. They encouraged me to attend other congregations but I didn't have the heart for it.

I met and fell in love with a wonderful, handsome, and understanding man. He has accepted me for who I am but understands only some of my dilemma. He understands my need to raise our children as Witnesses. But really what does that mean anymore? If I can't get myself to the meetings, then how am I going to get our children to the meetings? So here I am ....not attending meetings. I make it to one District Convention and Memorial every year. That is all the strength I have.

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

jw
friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

Thank you Yknot for your welcome.

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Some Confusion - What is this site in regards to JW?

by Green Jade in

jw
friends

i seem to have a bit of confusion concerning the purpose of this website and the people in it.

perhaps i am not computer savvy and do not understand some of the expressions used.

could someone comment and help clarify.. .

Green Jade

hello fact finder thank you for the welcome.